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Custom Search always defaults to field = From

#9

It would be useful if Custom Search defaulted to the last field = ... value chosen.

This is because I tend to search on field = Unquoted Content, and it is a little annoying to have to change it every time. (Particularly when the text focus is on the search field, so I could just type what I was looking for and search

Reported by ronin-126265 (at lighthouseapp) · November 22nd, 2010 @ 07:43 PM

State: accepted
Milestone: none
Assigned to: benny benny

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  1. benny
    benny
    • State changed from new to accepted
    • Assigned user set to benny

    Good point.

    November 23rd, 2010 @ 08:04 AM

  2. mason-lighthouse (at fivespeed)
    mason-lighthouse (at fivespeed)

    +1 for this!

    This is a somewhat minor annoyance, but it annoys me literally every single day of my life... the cumulative annoyance is probably now roughly equivalent to killing one fuzzy cute kitten.

    April 21st, 2011 @ 05:30 AM

  3. Thomas Hanke
    Thomas Hanke

    Btw, that ancient request's fulfillment would still practically solve the issue (of mine) to recall conversations with a single shortcut + name, by allowing me to search again for ‘any adress’ rather than default ‘from’.

    [auto-scrapped unnecessary cealing cat reference :-]

    [oops… www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Acts_4]

    April 23rd, 2011 @ 08:07 AM

  4. benny
    benny
    • State changed from accepted to fixcommitted

    In the next update you are going to be able to explicitly save the
    default mailbox search filter.

    [state:fixcommitted]

    May 3rd, 2011 @ 10:28 AM

  5. Thomas Hanke
    Thomas Hanke

    Praise cealing cat!

    Bug reports soon to follow… :-)

    May 3rd, 2011 @ 01:51 PM

  6. Thomas Hanke
    Thomas Hanke

    (Code word 2082) Sorry, this seems to (not) work as in previous versions.

    Neither in mailbox search, nor in ‚all msgs‘ mode.

    May 3rd, 2011 @ 05:24 PM

  7. benny
    benny

    Did you read the release notes with the instructions on how to set the default search?

    May 3rd, 2011 @ 05:32 PM

  8. Thomas Hanke
    Thomas Hanke

    There are instructions? … Oh.

    I clicked on the kitty link, read the original request and … bang!

    Okay, works for me with both search functions.

    The last weeks I've been falling in love with the conversation view more and more. The results are best with 'any address'.

    Anyway, that's why I'm only a 'beta tester' … not an alpha one.

    Thanks a lot!

    May 3rd, 2011 @ 08:31 PM

  9. Erik M-H
    Erik M-H

    Benny, this is great! I've set my default search to

    • Any Address contains ____
    • Subject contains ____
    • Unquoted Body Text contains ____

    I already have date-oriented mailbox folders, so I simply choose the appropriate one and do a mailbox search (^⌥⌘F is my friend!). I love having the focus in the right place -- and that [tab] and [shift][tab] work exactly as expected, including tabbing into (and out of!) the message-list panel itself. Wonderful!

    Query: I cannot find a keyboard-centric way of cancelling a custom search. [Escape] doesn't seem to do it, and I see nothing in the menus....

    Wait! I chanced upon it: ^⌥⌘F toggles the searching on and off! Perhaps a change to the menu item ("Hide Search"? "Dismiss Search"?) to signify the change in function?

    Anyway, I love the new default search filter function. Thank you!

    May 4th, 2011 @ 12:00 PM

  10. benny
    benny

    Escape ⎋ is problematic (implementation-wise) because it is also used
    to cancel Find (⌘F), but you are the second one to ask today, so maybe
    I should try to find a way to make it work.

    It should probably be “Show/Hide Mailbox Search”, because then
    “Show” would indicate that it is also possible to “Hide”. But if
    I can make ⎋ work then I guess it doesn't matter much.

    With regard to tabbing. Note that you can also navigate through messages
    using ⌘↓ and ⌘↑ (without moving focus to the outline).

    May 4th, 2011 @ 12:11 PM

  11. Thomas Hanke
    Thomas Hanke

    @Erik: thanks for that hint!

    Benny, this is great! I've set my default search to Any Address contains ____ Subject contains ____ Unquoted Body Text contains ____

    Once again, Mailmate's flexibility exceeds my creative thinking.

    Now, I only need a larger screen to fit it all into.

    @Benny: some issue: 5 tabs to get to the next text field. I've got no idea to avoid that. I'd opt for Opt-Down or something, but I guess that's against the (GUI) rules.

    Btw, there isn't a 'catch all text' search option, is there?

    May 4th, 2011 @ 02:11 PM

  12. Thomas Hanke
    Thomas Hanke

    'Catch all text': i.e. 'quoted' and 'unqoted' text.

    Perhaps even: any text, i.e. plus 'any adress'.

    Sometimes, clients use keywords (mostly their own name …) only in quotes of my msgs.

    The correspondence view does its job well, but some msgs. slip through.

    May 4th, 2011 @ 02:19 PM

  13. benny
    benny

    @Thomas: I was very close to starting on making ⌥⇥ and ⌥⇤ jump between text fields like a super-tab compared to tab. It was the non-standard GUI feeling that kept me from it. But I was also sure someone would ask. You came first :-)

    There is no “all text” feature. Partly because I want to encourage that users only search relevant text and partly because the implementation of body text search is currently relatively slow (always linear) which is already a problem for > 100K messages.

    May 4th, 2011 @ 02:42 PM

  14. Thomas Hanke
    Thomas Hanke

    @Benny: Well, I'm glad you didn't spoil my ⌥⇥ shortcut used for windows of an app.

    For me, Ctrl-Tab is free at the moment unless you add tabs to the mix…

    What about a menu entry without pre-assigned shortcut?
    We, i.e. me, would be free to change it to some reasonable shortcut and find a mouse with even more keys ;-)

    'All text': well, I'm quite fine with correspondence view, aside from some left out msgs.

    This may be mainly due to less-than-optimal msg structures of others.
    (Is it so complicated to add one's name to one's address?)

    I'll see if I can identify some clear-cut issues where MM is to blame.

    May 4th, 2011 @ 02:52 PM

  15. benny
    benny

    @Thomas: I just discovered that ⌥⇥ can be used in the message view to jump between links (probably works in any WebView in any app). I
    didn't know that. Didn't you once ask for such a feature? And maybe
    that'll free up ⌥⇥ for my use since its is in the same ball-park as
    jumping between links (although I would use it as a super-jump instead
    of a details-jump).

    May 4th, 2011 @ 03:01 PM

  16. Thomas Hanke
    Thomas Hanke

    Oh, yes.

    To provide some moral arguments: some apps provide some shortcuts to jump to textfields (on some system, I'm sure).

    Links: Yeah… I think I'd asked for that at some point. And I heard about the shortcut, too, but I've never used it, either – most sites just tend to cram too many links up and down the page.

    In MM, I solved it by means of the 'Open Link' Service.

    The solution'd mainly force me to retrain my tabbing muscles.

    Well, some of the ShiftLock combos are free on my keyboard for window tabbing, since I never got into using Shift/Ctrl-ShiftLock as ‘left (forward) delete’.

    (courtesy of ControllerMate – someone could create a whole (comic) series about ‘Team Apple Mate‘ ;-)

    May 4th, 2011 @ 03:31 PM

  17. benny
    benny
    • State changed from fixcommitted to fixreleased

    June 2nd, 2011 @ 10:32 AM

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