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Order of messages in threads should match mail list sort order

#2150

I always keep my mail list sort order as Date Received, most recent at the top. But individual threads (or conversations) show the oldest message at the top when I expand the thread, and preview the oldest message when the thread is collapsed. In both of these cases, the topmost message should be the one displayed, so that it matches the sort order of the list.

In general, it's never the case that I want to reply to the original message; I always want to reply to the most recent one, and that's not possible with the current settings unless I expand the thread and explicitly select the message I want.

Reported by Mike Conley · October 25th, 2018 @ 04:35 PM

State: accepted
Milestone: none
Assigned to: benny benny

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  1. benny
    benny
    • State changed from new to accepted

    This is a side-effect of the strict threading mode in MailMate. It cannot be changed before I've also implemented a different method for threading -- which has been on my todo for a long time.

    All I can offer you for now is to update this ticket when/if that is implemented.

    Note the thread related shortcuts in the Message menu. Some of them might be useful as a workaround.

    October 26th, 2018 @ 01:12 PM

  2. Mike Conley
    Mike Conley

    Also potentially useful is the auto-expand hidden preference. I'll try using that and see how I like it.

    Looking forward to that threading rewrite! :)

    October 26th, 2018 @ 01:20 PM

  3. benny
    benny

    You and many others :)

    October 26th, 2018 @ 01:20 PM

  4. Rick Cogley
    Rick Cogley

    +1 for being able to get at the most recent in the thread first (although, the "thread arcs" view just requires a quick click on the last node to get there).

    December 27th, 2018 @ 07:52 AM

  5. Daan Josephus Jitta
    Daan Josephus Jitta

    +1 for this one. Because apparently it still is not possible...I started using MailMate yesterday, so I am still discovering how (great) it works! But this seems really odd: the list of messages when a conversation is expanded is ordered very strange and counter-intuitive. I really hope this one will be addressed shortly!

    August 31st, 2020 @ 02:29 PM

  6. Eshan Bhide
    Eshan Bhide

    +1. Have been using Mailmate for some time and always found it counter intuitive to have to use my mouse to click through things :) Would be great to see this addressed!

    January 13th, 2021 @ 12:03 AM

  7. Stefan Seiz
    Stefan Seiz

    +1

    January 14th, 2021 @ 07:18 AM

  8. benny
    benny

    @Eshan: Note the Message > Last of Thread key binding (and also holding down ⌥ when expanding using either keyboard or mouse -- this one is a macOS feature).

    In general, the status of this ticket is the same. I do want to improve threading (and related issues), but it's a major task and still not at the top of my list. This ticket will be updated when that changes if anyone wants to be notified (enable “watching” the ticket).

    January 22nd, 2021 @ 10:43 AM

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