#2557 new
Pierre Igot

No “Mark as Not Junk” button for messages with SpamSieve score 0

Reported by Pierre Igot | May 14th, 2020 @ 09:10 PM

I don't quite understand why messages with a SpamSieve score of 0 (or even 1) still get the “Mark as Not Junk” button in the yellow bar. To me, the presence of this button suggests that somehow MM still thinks it might be junk. I can just ignore the button, but it makes me fear that something in MM still thinks this might be junk and might do junk-related things to the message.

Of course, it could be that there is something OTHER than SpamSieve that flags the message as potential junk in hidden headers and that therefore MM is not 100% sure it's not junk. But I am not sure what I can do to control that.

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  • benny

    benny May 15th, 2020 @ 01:42 PM

    • State changed from “new” to “closed”

    I might also change how this works since I'm currently changing how image blocking works (or is reported at least).

    The button is shown because of image blocking and not spam detection. A message can have three states: Explicitly junk, explicitly not junk, and neither of the two. In that third state, image blocking is enabled by default (see the Security Preferences pane). By default, image blocking is disabled if something is explicitly not junk and this state is reserved for the user explicitly setting it (possibly via user rules).

    The yellow bar does mix these concepts in a confusing way when they really should be (almost) orthogonal. I would, for example, always enable image blocking -- even for non-junk emails.

    We'll see if it's going to be better in the new message view. When that is released you are welcome to reopen the ticket with additional comments.

  • Pierre Igot

    Pierre Igot May 15th, 2020 @ 01:47 PM

    Cool. I suspected as much (image blocking rather than spam detection), because clicking on "Load Once" makes it all disappear. But that makes the labelling of the button quite misleading, since, like I said, it suggests that MM thinks the message might still be spam. There are lots of messages with links to pics that are perfectly legitimate and not spam.

    That said, I do have image blocking on all the time, even for non-junk emails, and I agree with you. Looking forward to the new message view!

    Thanks.

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